{"id":1938,"date":"2008-08-07T13:07:03","date_gmt":"2008-08-07T13:07:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kkdowning.net\/steelmill\/?post_type=interviews&p=1938"},"modified":"2024-09-06T09:45:09","modified_gmt":"2024-09-06T09:45:09","slug":"nazareth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/kkdowning.net\/steelmill\/nazareth\/","title":{"rendered":"Nazareth"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n
\"dan1\"<\/a>
\n\u00a9 Kimmo Tattari<\/p>\n

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DAN MCCAFFERTY<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n


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\nNazareth frontman visits the Steel Mill<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Interview By Ville Krannila & Kimmo Tattari \/ August 2008<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

\nWho could ever forget Nazareth? The originator of such heavy rock milestones as \u201cRazamanaz\u201d and \u201cHair Of The Dog\u201d, the Scottish band are on tour as very special guests to Deep Purple and back stronger than ever having just recently released their first studio recording in 10 years. Nowadays, Nazareth have two original members, vocalist Dan McCafferty and bassist Pete Agnew, the band is augmented by Pete\u2019s son Lee on drums and Jimmy Murrison on guitar. Dan McCafferty sat down with the Steel Mill in Helsinki and gave us an extensive interview on the legendary group\u2019s past, their current album \u201cThe Newz\u201d and other interesting issues such as the state of record business, drinking culture, whisky and live albums.<\/span><\/p>\n

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How\u2019s the tour been going so far?
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It\u2019s been really great! We started off in January and at the end of this week we\u2019ll do one show in Scotland. Then we\u2019ll take a month off. And that\u2019s the only time off the whole of this year. So it\u2019s bit of a heavy schedule.<\/p>\n

Do you play full shows on this tour?<\/p>\n

Well, now we are opening for Deep Purple so we\u2019re only doing one hour, but otherwise yes, full shows.<\/p>\n

After 10 years of waiting we finally get to enjoy your new album \u201cThe Newz\u201d. How was it to go back to the studio after such a long break?<\/p>\n

Oh it was great! It was lots of fun because we had a bunch of great new material. The reason why we had such a long break was that record companies wanted us to make albums, but they just weren\u2019t going to do anything with it. So we came across the Edel guys, and they said right off they wanted to promote the stuff. And you know, it\u2019s not a case of money, it\u2019s a case of wanting people to know about the album. It\u2019s funny, I was talking to the Deep Purple guys, and they have the same problem, as big as they are. They are losing the albums somewhere. When you have released your album, you have to tell about it to the people, otherwise what\u2019s the point?<\/p>\n

Uriah Heep also released a new album recently after a 10-year break, they apparently also faced some problems with the record company…<\/p>\n

Oh yes, I know. What happened to them was terrible. They are good pals of ours. They made the album (\u201cWake The Sleeper\u201d) for our record company, and then it got bought over by another company. The original company was really keen on releasing it but this other one came along, and it just became difficult. So it\u2019s taken them about year and a half to sort it out. It was horrible. You get stuck in these situations and it\u2019s not anyone\u2019s fault…so they were very frustrated. But these things happen.<\/p>\n

How\u2019s \u201cThe Newz\u201d been doing so far?<\/p>\n

Pretty good actually. It has sold really well. We are not a sort of band who\u2019s suddenly just going to shoot straight up to the charts, you know. But the albums are selling well and that\u2019s good. And it\u2019s getting released at different times. It came out in Europe late spring, early summer. And it just came out in Canada and the States a few weeks ago. And around this time, by the way, would be our 40th anniversary tour so we are trying to play every place. It\u2019s hard to go all around the world but we try. It takes a while.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\n\u00a9 Kimmo Tattari<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

The band has been active during the 10 year break though, am I right?<\/p>\n

Oh yeah, we did lots of shows. But you have to realize that very few people actually get to hear your stuff, mainstream radio today doesn\u2019t really play rock\u2019n\u2019roll. There are very few classic rock stations in Europe. So it\u2019s down to actually website people like you and maybe an odd rock show that\u2019s on at 3 o\u2019clock in the morning. Music for dopers…(laughs)<\/p>\n

There\u2019s been somewhat revived interest in classic rock bands during the last few years though\u2026<\/p>\n

I think what\u2019s happened is \u201cwhat goes around, comes around.\u201d What you have now are all these boy bands, arctic monkeys or whatever, and it\u2019s basically pop music that\u2019s guitar driven.<\/p>\n

And traditional bands like Priest and Deep Purple, people have been listening to that and developed their own thing. So it\u2019s brought back interest. The same with Judas Priest, I mean when was the last time you heard a Priest song on the radio?<\/p>\n

What kills me is that year after year Metallica wins the MTV heavy rock award, yet you never see Metallica on MTV! So it comes and goes.<\/p>\n

We noticed that the whole band is credited for all songs. How was the writing process? Did you all jam together and create the songs that way?<\/p>\n

On some of the songs yes, but on lot of others someone would come in with an idea, Jimmy or Pete or myself or the two of us. And we\u2019d take it further, see where it goes. Everybody liked that way of working and it turned out really well. The young producer Yann Rouiller was very helpful too. It was a very happy album to make, really fun. Everyone liked all the songs.<\/p>\n

How long did it take to record the whole thing?<\/p>\n

Six weeks actually from start to finish. Yann did have to do couple of remixes afterwards but nowadays that\u2019s very easy, you can go in and retune something through computer and do it very quickly.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t understand these bands who take years to record albums when the songs are there, because all you have to do is get the feel on the record. Although that\u2019s the hardest part. I mean you can play the songs but to get the feeling on it, that\u2019s a bit difficult.<\/p>\n

I understand that there were a bunch of songs that you left out from the album. Will they be heard as B-sides on the singles?<\/p>\n

Well, there\u2019s more ideas but we didn\u2019t really finish them off. Besides there\u2019s no such thing as a \u201cb-side\u201d anymore..<\/p>\n

Speaking about singles, is it true that \u201cLove Hurts\u201d was originally meant to be just a b-side? \"lovehurts\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Yeah that\u2019s true. On the European version of the album (\u201cHair Of The Dog\u201d), there\u2019s a song called \u201cGuilty\u201d which was the single and \u201cLove Hurts\u201d was going to be a B-side for that. And I think it was Jerry Moss at the A&M who said \u201cNo, that\u2019s a hit single, that\u2019s going on the album\u201d \u2013 and thank god he did! You see in those days it was about the same as it is today, you couldn\u2019t get any of your songs on the radio. But \u201cLove Hurts\u201d was something they could play, and they did.<\/p>\n

You never know these things when you are actually writing and recording them, am I right?<\/p>\n

Yes, you never know. You are just making music. And when the record\u2019s coming out, it\u2019s just the case of what tastes best.<\/p>\n

Do you ever find it boring or dull to play the \u201cmust be played\u201d hit songs such as \u201cLove Hurts\u201d \u201cHair Of The Dog\u201d or \u201cRazamanaz\u201d? Would you prefer playing songs that aren\u2019t heard so often, a bit more rare material?<\/p>\n

No we don\u2019t really, because there are different people in the audience every night. If it was the same crowd every night, then yes, but otherwise no. You know, you got to be sensible about this. Because if we come to Helsinki and we don\u2019t play \u201cLove Hurts\u201d we\u2019re going to piss people off. And you don\u2019t want a bunch of Helsinki people pissed off at you! I mean I\u2019ve seen these people drinking and they get violent..(laughs)<\/p>\n

So that\u2019s why people buy the ticket, they buy it because of things like \u201cLove Hurts\u201d and \u201cRazamanaz\u201d and \u201cHair Of The Dog\u201d and others, so you have to play these songs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\n\u00a9 Kimmo Tattari<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

And in between those you can also slip in some new and rare material\u2026<\/p>\n

Yeah, on this tour we have been playing four new ones from \u201cThe Newz\u201d but we are only going to do two tonight, because it\u2019s not a full set.<\/p>\n

We really hope \u201cSee Me\u201d is included\u2026<\/p>\n

Well, it\u2019s not actually. But we\u2019ll probably play that one next year. Again it depends on how the album does, it\u2019s hard sometimes.<\/p>\n

You had a film crew in the studio. Can we expect some sort of \u201cmaking of\u201d documentary some day?<\/p>\n

Well, it was a \u201cmaking of\u201d, yes, but it was this company who was going to do it, and then, like I said, they got bought over by another one. So it\u2019s kind of sitting on the table right now, but hopefully it\u2019ll come out. It\u2019ll be interesting for the fans, I think. I\u2019m not sure if it\u2019s going to be a full DVD or anything but it\u2019ll be interesting for those who care about the studio process.<\/p>\n

There are many bands originating from the seventies today, like Blue \u00d6yster Cult and Foreigner, for example, who don\u2019t release new material at all, but just concentrate on touring \u2013 when and why did you decide it\u2019s time for a new album?<\/p>\n

It was always obvious to us we wanted to do more records. I mean your past is your past, and it\u2019s there anyway. You have to live with it. But we prefer to make new music \u2013 I\u2019m a record buyer and I\u2019m not going to buy the new Eagles compilation or whatever everyone else is buying. Because you already have \u201cHotel California\u201d you\u2019d want some new stuff.<\/p>\n

Some bands don\u2019t think anyone wants to hear the new stuff, but I don\u2019t think that\u2019s true at all. It\u2019s like your live show, 50 % of it are the songs you have to play but the other 50 % you can do new stuff or something you haven\u2019t done for a long time. You can mix it up, and it keeps you thinking as well, instead of just going on auto-pilot.<\/p>\n

So what do you think about the current state of the record business?<\/p>\n

Well, I think the record companies are boring, to be honest. Because they weren\u2019t paying attention to the music at all, they thought it was just a phase or something. The thing that annoys me is that there just aren\u2019t enough of record companies today. There\u2019s just a few huge enterprises that own everything.<\/p>\n

And if they got Beyonc\u00e9 and Blue \u00d6yster Cult, who do you think is going to get the promotion? That is a bit sad. And it\u2019s the accountants who run these things today, it\u2019s got nothing to do with music anymore.<\/p>\n

Do you think it\u2019s possible anymore to have a 40-year career like yours?<\/p>\n

Well, yes I do. If you are keen enough and prepared to stick together and go through some rough times. Lots of bands do that, obviously you need luck and it\u2019s hard work. You have to work hard and a lot of people don\u2019t like to do that anymore. Once you get to a certain age you don\u2019t bother.<\/p>\n

You also need good songs and albums..<\/p>\n

Yeah, the whole thing starts and ends with the songs. But with the albums, you see that\u2019s changing as well. When I was a kid and went to buy an album, I wanted to hear the whole thing. Because there usually was a thread that ran through the whole record, an atmosphere. But nowadays, it\u2019s \u201ctrack one\u201d or \u201ctrack four\u201d and they don\u2019t care about the album. So it kind of messes it up somewhere. But that\u2019s how it is.<\/p>\n

In the future, you and Pete can be heard on Roger Glover\u2019s solo album as well. Could you tell us something about that?<\/p>\n

They sent us this song (\u201cThe Dream I Had\u201d) and Roger produced three of our albums back in the day so he knows we can sing together and it creates a different sound. It\u2019s a good song actually. So hopefully we\u2019ll get to do it by the end of this summer. If there\u2019s time and place to do it. Because it\u2019s one of these things where we\u2019ll be over there and he\u2019ll be on tour in Japan or something. So we\u2019ll have to send our cut to him and so forth. But the song\u2019s really good and interesting.<\/p>\n

Like you said, Roger produced a few albums for you back in the 70\u2019s\u2026<\/p>\n

Yeah, he was up to see us recently in Switzerland and came to visit. He\u2019s a nice lad, a good friend of mine. He\u2019s also a great producer, he gets the best out of you.<\/p>\n

Roger also produced Judas Priest\u2019s \u201cSin After Sin\u201d- album around the same time. Did you meet the Priest guys at any point?<\/p>\n

Well, we crossed paths with boys on airports and things. But we never actually played with them. They were a nice bunch of lads though.<\/p>\n

Gibson recently presented their Jimmy Murrison Les Paul guitar. Do you know how many guitars they have made and where they can be bought?<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know, it just came out this summer. I don\u2019t even know if it\u2019s on sale yet. Gibson are doing student models, based on the same ideas. But I know Jimmy\u2019s very pleased with it. And why shouldn\u2019t he, hey a guitar named after you! Getting a signature guitar especially from Gibson, that\u2019s really something.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\n\u00a9 Ville Krannila<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

Nazareth also now contains two generations of players with Pete\u2019s son Lee Agnew on drums, how\u2019s that been working out?<\/p>\n

It\u2019s been good, you know Lee\u2019s played with a lot of bands and at the time he wasn\u2019t working so it was a natural thing. Bands have a tendency to come together because you have to eat, and pay the rent…(laughs) So first Lee would work with us as the drum tech for Darrel (Sweet) and when he died, Lee was a natural choice. I mean we couldn\u2019t have stood for auditions or things like that, it would have been strange somehow.<\/p>\n

And Lee was one of Darrel\u2019s favourite drummers anyway. Lee\u2019s young and listens to every drummer in the world, he keeps learning new things all the time. Which is great because it\u2019s good for us, it gets us off our asses as well. So at the moment we are a very happy band. We are getting along well and everybody\u2019s up for the band. I mean if you\u2019re playing rock\u2019n\u2019roll you got to have an ego anyway, but with us no one\u2019s ego is getting in the way of each other.<\/p>\n

Dan, what\u2019s the secret behind your voice? You still sound exactly the same you\u2019ve always sounded, how do you do it?<\/p>\n

Well, I don\u2019t have any secret, I just don\u2019t worry about it. I think too many singers are paranoid with their voices \u2013 \u201cit\u2019s too smoky,\u201d \u201cit\u2019s too cold\u201d or whatever. But I\u2019ve just been lucky I guess. I just don\u2019t worry about it, if it goes tomorrow it goes. So why worry about it?<\/p>\n

A while ago in \u201cWhisky Magazine\u201d Ian Gillan (Deep Purple) and Bernie Shaw (Uriah Heep) told that they are friends of Scotch Single Malt whisky. What is your relationship with this widely know Scottish product?<\/p>\n

I can\u2019t drink whisky. I mean I love the taste of it but it gives me some strange Scottish blister! It just don\u2019t agree with me at all. I can\u2019t drink it. It\u2019s funny because my oldest son has a wife who is a manager in a whisky company so I could get all the free whisky in the world! (laughs).<\/p>\n

In the same magazine, Ian and Bernie were telling about the drinking culture in the rock business; earlier people used to get wasted whenever they could but now they tend to take it easier…have you noticed the change during these 40 years?<\/p>\n

Well there is a drinking culture in this business. It\u2019s not as wild for us anymore because we aren\u2019t youngsters! (laughs) Hangovers have gotten worse, in the old days you used to have them and that was it, but nowadays you just try to avoid them. What\u2019s weird about the rock business is that you really can\u2019t drink before you go on stage. You can have a couple of drinks but that\u2019s it. So when you come off, that\u2019s when you turn off. That\u2019s when you relax, but you see it\u2019s usually 1 o\u2019clock in the morning so you sit up and have a few drinks.<\/p>\n

And when you come off stage you are so pumped up with adrenaline, you really cannot just go straight to bed. But we were never the sort of band that used to have wild after-show parties, we just kind hung around ourselves and with bands that we played with. I mean there are lots of myths, lots of things I got accused of but didn\u2019t do. And fortunately didn\u2019t, because I\u2019d be dead!<\/p>\n

Did you ever play with the wild man Ozzy Osbourne?<\/p>\n

No but we played with Black Sabbath many, many years ago. And the last time I played with anyone from Sabbath was with Tony Iommi, we did a thing in Russia, with a Russian band. We did \u201cHair Of The Dog\u201d with them and Tony did \u201cIron Man\u201d, I think. So that was the last time I\u2019ve seen Tony. But he\u2019s still looking good and playing great.<\/p>\n

Guns\u2019n\u2019Roses did a great version of \u201cHair Of The Dog\u201d on their covers album (\u201cThe Spaghetti Incident\u201d 1993)\u2026<\/p>\n

Yeah, I think it was a great version too. I was really pleased with that.<\/p>\n

These cover versions also bring positive attention towards Nazareth..<\/p>\n

Yes of course it does because all the Guns\u2019n\u2019Roses fans go \u201cOh what is this, I think I\u2019ll go and check these guys out too.\u201d It didn\u2019t hurt us at all.<\/p>\n

Are there many new young fans in the Nazareth audience these days?<\/p>\n

Yes, there are. I never sort of realized that during the last five, six, seven years maybe there\u2019s a lot of young people coming along. I think it\u2019s a case of great music is great music. And there\u2019s so much MTV going on, so much bling-bling, everybody\u2019s beautiful \u2013 even the guys are beautiful. And the ordinary bloke in the street is going: \u201cThat\u2019s not me, I don\u2019t know anyone who looks like that!\u201d So they are looking for something they can relate to, something that\u2019s ugly and sweaty (laughs). A bit more rock\u2019n\u2019roll. So I think that\u2019s what\u2019s happening, youngsters are just looking for something real. Real music as opposed to whatever\u2019s on air these days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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If you had to choose, what would be your favourite Nazareth album and why? Bands usually say their new one is the best\u2026<\/p>\n

Well, of course they do because it\u2019s the last thing you did. I don\u2019t know really. I\u2019ve liked them all at the time, to be honest. I would have never put them out if I didn\u2019t like them.<\/p>\n

\u201cMalice In Wonderland\u201d is one of our favourites\u2026<\/p>\n

Yeah I love that album. That\u2019s one of the things we kind of prided ourselves on, we didn\u2019t do \u201cson of Razamanaz\u201d or \u201cson of Loud \u2018n\u2019Proud\u201d you know. We did that so we wanted to do something else. But you like them all at the time, it\u2019s easy 20 years later to look back and go \u201coh that was a bit rough.\u201d That\u2019s 20 years along and technology has moved on, sound has moved along. When I listen to our old albums, which is not often, actually, there\u2019s something wonderfully naive about them. Something really raw, that\u2019s really hard to get. And that\u2019s what we were trying to get with \u201cThe Newz\u201d \u2013 we were trying to achieve that sort of rawness.<\/p>\n

Some of those classic albums sound better than the ones made today because they are simpler.<\/p>\n

Yes, you don\u2019t need eight million overdubs on them. That\u2019s what we did with \u201cThe Newz\u201d as well. OK, there\u2019s a couple of guitar overdubs but that\u2019s it. Instead of layers and layers of stuff. I remember someone like Lenny Kravitz used to go for that 1970\u2019s sound and get 42 guitar tracks on it! He managed to make it sound good but it was weird.<\/p>\n

And live albums receive their share of unnecessary overdubs as well..<\/p>\n

It\u2019s like we did that \u201cLive In Brazil\u201d thing last year and it went to number one in Brazil \u2013 and that was because it was a genuine live album. That was the show, as it was. And I think that was it, because you can\u2019t fool people.<\/p>\n

Will that album be out in Europe as well?<\/p>\n

Yeah, I suppose it\u2019s coming out. You can get it from the website or Amazon or any of those places. It\u2019s a good album. I mean we did that record and the next thing we hear it was out, they sent us a mix of it and there were about seven things where we went \u201cwell, that\u2019s a mistake\u201d because it was a genuine bunk.<\/p>\n

Thanks a lot, Dan!<\/p>\n

Nazareth on the web:<\/span><\/strong><\/span>
\nhttp:\/\/www.nazarethdirect.co.uk<\/a><\/p>\n

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Where from:<\/strong> Scotland<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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Discography (studio albums): <\/strong>Nazareth (1971), Excercises (1972), Razamanaz (1973), Loud ‘n’ Proud (1974), Rampant (1974), Hair Of The Dog (1975), Close Enough For Rock ‘n’ Roll (1976), Play ‘n’ The Game (1976), Expect No Mercy (1977), No Mean City (1979), Malice In Wonderland (1980), The Fool Circle (1981), 2XS (1982), Sound Elixir (1983), The Catch (1984), Cinema (1986), Snakes ‘n’ Ladders (1989), No Jive (1991), Move Me (1994), Boogaloo (1998), The Newz (2008)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Essential releases (top5):<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\nRazamanaz (1973)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>Nazareth\u2019s 3rd album, released in 1973, produced by Roger Glover, finally paved their way to a big success. \u2018Broken Down Angel\u2019 and \u2018Bad, Bad Boy\u2019 made their way to UK Top Ten for weeks, and the title track \u2018Razamanaz\u2019 has been in Nazareth\u2019s setlist for years. Also check excellent \u2018Sold My Soul\u2019.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\nHair Of The Dog (1975)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>There\u2019s not a single weak track on this album, maybe Nazareth\u2019s best releaseever. Along the brutal title, track two excellent covers \u2018Guilty\u2019 (Randy Newman) and \u2018Beggar\u2019s Day\u2019 (Nils Lofgren) are included. In the US version, a 3rd cover \u2018Love Hurts\u2019 replaced \u2018Guilty, and it soon became a massive hit worldwide. \u2018Love Hurts\u2019 is also one of the first powerballads in the history of hard rock.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\nMalice In Wonderland (1980)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>The second album from Nazareth featuring two guitarists as Zal Cleminson from The Sensational Alex Harvey Band had joined the classical McCafferty-Charlton-Agnew-Sweet lineup a couple of years earlier. Produced by Jeff Baxter (Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan) in the Bahamas, this great album is a step towards AOR, especially compared to the bands earlier works.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\nThe Fool Circle (1981)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>Released in early 1981, Nazareth was again a 4-man-band as Zal Cleminson had left the band. This album is packed with catchy tunes like \u2018Dressed To Kill\u2019, \u2018Pop The Silo\u2019 and \u2018Let Me Be Your Leader\u2019. It also contains a great live version of J.J. Cale\u2019s \u2018Cocaine\u2019.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\nNo Jive (1991)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>Here the original lineup was broken as guitarist Billy Rankin replaced Manny Charlton. After a \u2018drier season\u2019 of some 5 albums, this one can be considered as a really strong comeback. \u2018Every Time It Rains\u2019 is a great example of Rankin\u2019s songwriting, and \u2018Tell Me That You Love Me\u2019 is, again, good old quality Nazareth.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

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