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\u00a9 Kimmo Tattari<\/p>\n

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KEN HENSLEY<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n


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Interview By Ville Krannila & Kimmo Tattari \/ October 2008<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

\nOn a rainy October evening couple of Millworkers travelled to Helsinki for a meeting with none other than Ken Hensley, a keyboardist (and occasional guitarist) and main song writer of one of the legendary classic rock bands Uriah Heep. During his tenure with Heep from late 1960\u2019s through to 1980 when he left the band, Hensley composed some of Heep\u2019s most well loved tracks including such masterpieces as \u201cLady In Black,\u201d \u201cEasy Livin\u2019,\u201d \u201cJuly Morning\u201d and \u201cLook At Yourself\u201d. After leaving Heep, Ken went solo and spent some time with southern rockers Blackfoot.<\/p>\n

Later after successfully kicking a serious drug habit, he did some session work before returning to music business in late 1990\u2019s resurrecting a successful solo career. Arguably its highlight \u201cBlood On The Highway\u201d was released last year; a autobiographical story of star\u2019s many twists and turns, it is also augmented by a new book \u201cWhen Too Many Dreams Come True\u201d and full DVD. Recently at a special gig organized by the Finnish Heep fan club, Hensley played a full acoustic set in Helsinki. Steel Mill couldn\u2019t pass the opportunity to talk to the man himself of many aspects of his long and illustrious career.<\/p>\n

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You are doing an acoustic show tonight, is this one off occasion for that kind of performance on this tour?<\/p>\n

Yeah, I\u2019m actually doing a solo show tonight and then I\u2019m going to Russia to do six shows with my band Live Fire – they are all from Norway. After that I\u2019m off to Switzerland to do a solo show there. So it\u2019s two solo shows and six band shows.<\/p>\n

Have you played these type of acoustic shows before and what\u2019s the biggest difference compared to full electric sets?<\/p>\n

Yes, I do them all the time. The main difference is obviously the songs are different and the focus is completely different because it\u2019s on the songs and not on the performance. So I play the songs the way I wrote them. It\u2019s very interactive. I invite the audience to ask questions and discuss certain things, to tell me what they like about the songs they make requests for. Also if anybody brings a guitar, I invite them up to play. So it\u2019s designed to be interactive and do things you can\u2019t do on a band show. I mean I can\u2019t sit down and talk about how the song came to life, where the idea came from, what my circumstances were at the time etc. And all those things are important in understanding the song itself. This is information people don\u2019t normally get from a concert and of course when you are surrounded by a band you have a very different feeling than when you are sitting on stage completely alone.<\/p>\n

Your latest solo album was all about personal stories; \u201cBlood On The Highway.\u201d How has the response been?<\/p>\n

Very good. I\u2019ve been really, really busy since the record came out in May last year. Of course it didn\u2019t go to number one or anything like that but so far I think it\u2019s sold 40 000 copies in Europe. And it sells steadily about the same number of copies every month. And it\u2019s not just the CD, but also the book and the DVD. It\u2019s a trilogy, a title which is carried by three products. I\u2019m very satisfied with the way it\u2019s been selling, very satisfied with the critical response. There must be something happening which is good.<\/p>\n

Was it anyhow different to make this one compared to the numerous other albums you have made? There must be quite strong feelings attached when telling your own life story, and it might be hard to stay objective\u2026<\/p>\n

Oh it was much easier to make this record. First of all, I had my record company behind me and secondly we decided to make the record focus on a concept. The concept being 10 and a half years of rock star\u2019s life. And I know a lot about that. So when I looked at the concept and the story, I just took the elements from the story and made songs out of those. There\u2019s the beginning, there\u2019s the slow climb to fame and then there\u2019s the drugs and the women, all the psychological drama later on. It wasn\u2019t actually very difficult to write, but it took about seven months to record because I used a lot of different voices on the record. That was something we decided in the beginning…<\/p>\n

That was actually the next question… the different voices and reasons behind them?<\/p>\n

Well, that was something we decided very early on because this isn\u2019t just about me. This record\u2019s about hundreds of people including K.K. Downing who were around in the early days of real rock\u2019n\u2019roll. Those who really planted the whole thing and created a lot of what we see now \u2013 as we are influenced by those times.<\/p>\n

So there was a lot people and a lot of bands involved. I wanted the story to be a little more generic, but I can only tell it as I saw through my own eyes. Plus I\u2019m not a rock singer. I can sing some ballads really well, there were songs like \u201cLady In Black\u201d which no one else could really have sung. But I\u2019m not a rock singer, I don\u2019t understand how Glenn Hughes, Jorn Lande, Paul Rodgers or Sammy Hagar even think of what they do, let alone do it. For me that\u2019s the best thing my father ever taught me: \u201cif you want a job done, hire an expert and get out of the way!\u201d So that\u2019s what we did. I just picked the voices I wanted for specific songs and I think it created a much bigger story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Some of the songs (\u201cThink Twice\u201d \u201999, \u201cYou\u2019ve Got It\u201d \u201902, \u201cThe Last Dance\u201d \u201903) were actually written and recorded in your previous solo releases. When writing those songs, did you have this idea of forthcoming autobiography in mind?<\/p>\n

No, not really. Obviously when you have had a career like mine, I\u2019ve been doing this a very long time, there are a lot of things which influence your thinking so for me those songs at the time may have come from a personal situations. \u201cThink Twice\u201d definitely because I was dating a woman who was not in love with me, she was in love with my money and my career, my image and everything that went with it. So she inspired that song and when we decided to tell this story, when I went to my songbook I felt like those songs were appropriate. \u201cYou\u2019ve Got It\u201d was always a drug song, it\u2019s all about cocaine \u2013 which I was addicted to for 16 years. That had to be there, I wanted a drug song and pulled it out of the book.<\/p>\n

There are also bits and pieces of classic Heep songs inserted..<\/p>\n

Yeah, but keep it in context; what do the words in that chorus say? \u201cOne million miles, ten million hearts, one simple song.\u201d That simple song was \u201cLady In Black,\u201d \u201cFree Me\u201d and \u201cJuly Morning.\u201d So they were there as illustrations. And I couldn\u2019t take anything from Kiss or anybody else, because I can\u2019t play anybody else\u2019s music so I had to use my own. But they fit for a reason, it\u2019s not just accidental poaching. They are my songs so I put them there.<\/p>\n

Especially \u201cYou\u2019ve Got It\u201d sung by Jorn Lande on \u201cBlood On The Highway\u201d sounds a lot heavier than on \u201cRunning Blind\u201d because of different singer…<\/p>\n

Yeah, it was meant to be sung like that and I couldn\u2019t do it. I could maybe dream of singing like that, but I couldn\u2019t do it! (laughs) And we are going to do the same thing with the new album by the way. I\u2019m using a lot of excellent voices so it\u2019ll be interesting.<\/p>\n

When should we expect it?<\/p>\n

Late spring. I start recording on December 2nd. I\u2019m using some very interesting singers, female singers as well. It\u2019s going to be fun.<\/p>\n

Are you still with the same record company?<\/p>\n

Yes. I\u2019m actually going to play three songs from that album tonight. We call this tour \u201cPast, Present and Future\u201d so there will be a lot of old songs, one or two new songs and then there\u2019s going to be three that nobody\u2019s ever heard before, which are planned for the new album. I\u2019ve never played them live before so I don\u2019t even know how they end! (laughs) I was practising in my room today and thought to myself: \u201cHow am I going to end this?\u201d<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s look back at your career a bit\u2026 The early years at Uriah Heep were an extremely creative period, and there\u2019s a chain of great classic albums done in a very short time span (\u201cSalisbury\u201d \u201970, \u201cLook At Yourself\u201d \u201971, \u201cDemons And Wizards\u201d & \u201cThe Magician\u2019s Birthday\u201d \u201972, \u201cSweet Freedom\u201d & solo album \u201cProud Words From The Dusty Shelf\u201d \u201973). Where did such creativity came from?<\/p>\n

Well, we were doing two albums a year, or maybe one album in every ten months. No one does it anymore and it was ridiculous. And albums like \u201cThe Magician\u2019s Birthday\u201d suffered because of this scheduling. Also my song writing really started to suffer when I became more addicted to cocaine.<\/p>\n

Then I really lost my focus, my focus was entirely on the drug. Everything else was second. So it had a big effect on everybody. We had guys in the band who were alcoholics and some of them were drug addicts. This all developed in late 1972, early 1973 and as a result, everything went right down. We couldn\u2019t see it and blamed it on something else. But I believe I was born to write songs. I believe that\u2019s my purpose on earth, my purpose in life because now I\u2019m writing more songs than ever before in my whole life.<\/p>\n

Partially that\u2019s because of where I live, which is very peaceful and I don\u2019t have the noise of the world in my head. And partially because when writing my book and the songs for \u201cBlood On The Highway\u201d and particularly writing the song called \u201cI Did It All\u201d I realised that\u2019s what I\u2019m here for. I\u2019m here to write songs, that\u2019s what I do. And that\u2019s why I started my song writing school because I can teach other people to do what I do very easily. Once I realised that\u2019s my main gift, I focus more on writing, not so much on singing or trying to be a virtuoso musician.<\/p>\n

My true belief is that inspiration comes from a supernatural source. I\u2019m Christian as you probably know so I just happen to believe that God is using me to say things He wants to say to people. I don\u2019t know why and I won\u2019t find out while I\u2019m alive but that\u2019s my job. And I think it wouldn\u2019t be possible for any normal person to be able to write so many songs without some kind of supernatural source of inspiration. Songs come to me in the most silliest ways, so that\u2019s my belief.<\/p>\n

Nowadays many bands tend to make albums for years\u2026 Do you think that the approach of making music has somehow changed during the years, or is it the record companies or the whole music business in general?<\/p>\n

Didn\u2019t Guns\u2019n\u2019Roses just deliver their first album in 12 years or something? Well, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s the record companies or the industry. I think the key is in the 1970\u2019s we were very creative, we had to be. We had no tools to work with, we had no internet, no computers, no mobile phones, nothing. So we really had to be creative to make anything, to get from here to there, just everything.And that\u2019s why a lot of great music comes from that time, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, all the hard rock bands from that time. Such great, lasting, classic and enduring music.<\/p>\n

So I think it\u2019s got more to do with the fact that there just aren\u2019t enough good song writers around, to write great rock songs. In those days yes, we were writing songs but not all of them were good. And then in the 1980\u2019s the art of song writing seemed to disappear. Everybody was learning to play the guitar incredibly fast and nobody was writing songs. And still when listen to the radio I struggle to find a good song, I hear a lot of songs but songs that really move me, I don\u2019t hear. I think we are all fans of an era where the songs really meant something.<\/p>\n

So I find there\u2019s a lot of superficial music around, but no, I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any real excuse for it. I tried to get back into the industry seven years ago when I made the decision to move back to Europe and I realised the industry had left me behind a long time ago. So I had to create my own little industry and the core of that was writing – writing for TV, film, advertisements etc. Through that I started to release CD\u2019s and found my record deal. What you have to do is just to recognize where you are strong and work on that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Between \u201cSalisbury\u201d and \u201cLook At Yourself\u201d in \u201971 you also made an appearance on the first (and the only\u2026) album by a German band called Weed. There isn\u2019t much info about this available, so maybe you could tell something about this project?<\/p>\n

Oh it was just a friend of mine in Hamburg. He was managing a band and wanted me to write some songs for them..<\/p>\n

So all the songs on the album were written by you?<\/p>\n

Yeah pretty much so. I haven\u2019t even listened to that record, I do have two or three copies of that at home. I can\u2019t believe it even came out on CD. I wrote the songs, got paid for it, I went to Hamburg and played on it and sang a couple of songs but then I forgot all about it. I thought well, that\u2019s just a piece of history. Then all of a sudden it became a big public thing. I don\u2019t now, it was just to help me. I made some money out of it.<\/p>\n

You mentioned Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple before. Why do think Uriah Heep never got the same recognition as those two bands, because you did have many great rock songs and hit singles? Yet Heep never did 20 minute jams on stage like those other groups..<\/p>\n

Well I don\u2019t know. We were a little more manufactured I guess because we had a record deal from the beginning and we were very pampered, we had a good management and the press in England especially thought we were just over hyped. They really didn\u2019t give us the credit I think the band deserved. But musically I don\u2019t think we were as good as Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple. As a group of musicians most them were better than us. We just didn\u2019t quite reach that same level. Certainly we were very successful, maybe we didn\u2019t go as far as some of those other bands but that\u2019s okay.<\/p>\n

After leaving Heep, and making one solo album (\u201cFree Spirit\u201d \u201980), you were a member of Blackfoot during the albums \u201cSiogo\u201d \u201983 and \u201cVertical Smiles\u201d \u201984. What kind of memories do you have from that era?<\/p>\n

Well, I never quite fit in with that band. It was uncomfortable partly because their style of music was really strange for me. It was just hard to make my style work with theirs because their thing was southern rock. It was very much 2 to 4. And then when I went on the road with them, I kind of still had memories of being on the road with Uriah Heep in my head. So I compared everything with everything and that was wrong. It didn\u2019t work and in the end I was just very disappointed. And when I heard that David Byron had died, that\u2019s when I left Blackfoot.<\/p>\n

And after Blackfoot years there were almost a decade of silence, at least in regards to releasing your own material\u2026<\/p>\n

Yes, but you have to remember I was still seriously addicted to cocaine. When I left Blackfoot my number one priority became just getting off cocaine, getting rid of my addiction.<\/p>\n

During this millennium there have been few solo albums, but also a collaboration with John Lawton with the Hensley Lawton Band. Have you planned a future for this project?<\/p>\n

No. John and I have a lot of areas where we agree musically but philosophically we disagree on many things. It\u2019s best if we can try to remain friends and stay away from each other musically. I just don\u2019t see any future in that.<\/p>\n

As both Judas Priest and Uriah Heep were touring a lot all over the world during the 1970\u2019s did you and K.K. ever meet during those days?<\/p>\n

I\u2019m sure that we\u2019ve crossed paths. I don\u2019t know him personally but of course I\u2019m very aware of what they have done and how powerful influence they have been \u2013 rock\u2019n\u2019roll in general but also to young people. And Judas Priest merchandise, I see that more than I see a lot of other bands merchandise so..and they were a great band. The fact that they are still together, they are still doing what they do, I think that is a tremendous thing.<\/p>\n

Any last words to the viewers of Steel Mill?<\/p>\n

From my personal and Uriah Heep\u2019s standpoint, I really appreciate what people like you do. What you do is tremendous and it keeps everything alive and it\u2019s so important.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s all about the love of music and same goes for me, I don\u2019t make my money on doing shows. All the money I make from my shows goes to my charity, I make my money on royalties, other recording projects and so on. I do it now for the same reason I was doing it when I was 18 years old. I do it because I love it, and I do it because people like you and those out there waiting for the show. It keeps real music alive. I mean nowadays I\u2019m playing to smaller audiences than before when I used to play to extremely large crowds but that doesn\u2019t make any difference. The spirit is still the same and it\u2019s still just as important as it was then.<\/p>\n

Thanks a lot, Ken! <\/span><\/p>\n

Ken Hensley on the web:<\/strong>
\nhttp:\/\/www.ken-hensley.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n

Special thanks to Tapio Minkkinen and Finland\u2019s Uriah Heep fan club!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Where from:<\/strong> England<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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Active:<\/strong> Late 60’s -><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Style:<\/strong> classsic hard rock<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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Discography:
\nWith Uriah Heep (studio albums): <\/strong>Very ‘Eavy Very ‘Umble (1970), Salisbury (1971), Look At Yourself (1971), Demons And Wizards (1972), The Magician’s Birthday (1972), Sweet Freedom (1973), Wonderworld (1974), Return To Fantasy (1975), High And Mighty (1976), Firefly (1977), Innocent Victim (1977), Fallen Angel (1978), Conquest (1980)
\nSolo (studio albums):<\/strong> Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf (1973), Eager To Please (1975), Free Spirit (1980), From Time To Time (1994), A Glimpse Of Glory (1999), Running Blind (2002), The Last Dance (2003), Blood On The Highway (2007)
\nAlso recorded with The Gods, Head Machine, Toe Fat, Weed, Blackfoot, Hensley Laeton band, etc…<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Essential releases (top4):<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\nUriah Heep:
\nDemons And Wizards (1972)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>Perhaps Uriah Heep’s critically most acclaimed album. Demons And Wizards is a true hard rock classic that has maintained it’s enchanting grip of mysterious atmosphere throughout the years. Songs like ‘Easy Livin’ and ‘The Wizard’ are Heep trademarks, and tracks like ‘Circle Of Hands’ or ‘Paradise\/The Spell’ further improve the album’s magical appeal.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\nUriah Heep:
\nThe Magician’s Birthday (1972)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>A natural follow-up to Demons And Wizards, The Magician’s Birthday takes the mesmerizing strengths of it’s predecessor even deeper. Read full Millworkers’ review here<\/a><\/span>.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\nUriah Heep:
\nFirefly (1977)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>The first and best album with singer John Lawton, who had a tought task replacing formidable David Byron, but succeeded nicely. Firefly was nearly completely written by Ken Hensley and shows his composing pen once again sharp as razor. From outlaw themed ‘The Hanging Tree’ to always as impressive ‘Sympathy’ and on to the band mainstay ‘Wise Man’ the album goes from strength to strength.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\nBlood On The Highway (2007)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>Latest on the long line of Hensley’s solo albums and arguably the best one. Top songwriting, interesting concept and an array of excellent volcalists make the album shine. Read full Millworkers’ review here.<\/a><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

Essential quest appereance:<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\nW.A.S.P.
\nThe Headless Children (1989)<\/p>\n

<\/strong>In 1989 Hensley showed up, rather unexpectedly, as a guest keyboardist on Blackie Lawless’ & the co’s album The Headless Children, which ranks amongst the band’s best. The album offers a rare opportunity to hear Ken display his impressive keyboard wizardry on songs written entirely by others. “Ken Hensley wrote the rule book for heavy metal keyboards as far as I’m concerned.” Lawless has often been quoted saying.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

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