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\n\u00a9 Jeff Waters<\/span>
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JEFF WATERS<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n


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\nAnnihilator frontman in Steel Mill interview<\/strong><\/span><\/span>
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Interview By Marco Schmellentin \/ September 2010<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Jeff Waters, undoubtedly one of the most influential guitar players of our time, spoke to K.K. Downing\u2019s Steel Mill \u2013 not only as a musician or the leader and main songwriter of the legendary thrash metal band Annihilator, but also as a big Judas Priest and heavy metal fan.<\/p>\n

<\/span>I met Jeff, one of my favourite guitarists, at the Musikmesse 2010 in Frankfurt, where he presented his first signature guitar (everyone can buy), the Epiphone Annihilation-V and the Hughes and Kettner Coreblade (amp) live on stage. He played classic stuff like \u2018Alison Hell\u2019 and \u2018Fun Palace\u2019 as well as a brand-new song called \u2018The Trend\u2019 \u2013 the rest of the band was replaced by a (playback) tape. It was really impressive to see him playing his trademark riffs and solos from close range and he interacted with the audience very well. After his shows, he invited everyone to have a chat with him backstage\u2026\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

I grabbed my chance, picked up two pictures showing Jeff with his new guitar and asked him to sign one for me and one for K.K. Downing\u2019s Steel Mill. He stunned me when he said that he knew the Steel Mill and visited it from time to time – furthermore, K.K. would be the main reason he\u2019s playing (Flying) Vs. I asked him if he would be interested in doing an interview for the Mill and he said: \u201cSure \u2013 count me in 100 %. I\u2019m a Priest and K.K. fan for life\u201d.<\/p>\n

A couple of weeks later, in early May, my mobile phone rang\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

Hi, this is Jeff Waters speaking – is Marco there, please?<\/p>\n

Hi Jeff! Thanks for calling. How are you doing?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s a really busy time, but I\u2019m doing very well at the moment.\u00a0 We just returned from a promo trip to Europe for the new album and everything went\u00a0quite well.<\/p>\n

A friend told me that you visited Tommy Vetterli (former guitarist of Coroner and Kreator \/ owner of New Sound Studio in Switzerland). Did you record any guitars there? I thought the new Annihilator album is already finished\u2026\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

No, I didn\u2019t do any recordings. Tommy and I know each other from tours in the past and due to the volcano ash coming from Iceland, our flights were cancelled. So, I decided to visit Tommy.<\/p>\n

As you know, we recently prepared a 30th Anniversary of British Steel special for the Steel Mill and it would be great to get some comments and thoughts about this album.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Well, the problem with Priest it is, that it is hard to pick only one good album as they have 5, 6 or 7 great albums and all of them are classics. And one of the classics is \u2018British steel\u2019 – one of the best metal albums ever. I think the 30th Anniversary edition is a great idea as it will get younger kids back to this great album. The first Priest record I got my hands on as a teenager was \u00a0\u2018Screaming for vengeance\u2019 and I remember listening to \u2018British Steel\u2019 on a portable cassette player (Walkman) in the backyard of my parents\u2019 house, dreaming of seeing Judas Priest live in concert and maybe meeting them \u00a0sometime.<\/p>\n

\u2018British Steel\u2019 has everything on it \u2013 great songs, riffs and choruses. There are party songs like \u2018Living After Midnight\u2019 and \u2018Breaking The Law\u2019 as well as faster songs like \u2018Steeler\u2019 and \u2018Rapid Fire\u2019. Furthermore, \u2018Metal Gods\u2019 has the best slow heavy metal guitar riff, especially the one in the pre-chorus (Jeff is singing the riff) was very influential for many, many metal bands out there. \u00a0And there is probably no other metal band that can play such long fade-outs (end of songs) without getting boring \u2013 like in \u2018Metal Gods\u2019 and \u2018Steeler\u2019. Lyric-wise, \u2018Rapid Fire\u2019 is the song with the most powerful lyrics in metal (Jeff sings, again) \u2018Pounding the world, like a battering ram\u2026\u2019. If I had to put one single song in a time capsule, I\u2019d choose \u2018Rapid Fire\u2019 as this one reflects the heavy metal of 1980, perfectly. But, the perfect Judas Priest song (for me) is \u2018The Sentinel\u2019 off the \u2018Defenders Of The Faith\u2019 album\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\nJeff & K.K. ’91
\n\u00a9 Jeff Waters<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

In the early 90\u2019s, your dream came true. You have not only met them, Annihilator were \u2018special guests\u2019 on the European leg of the legendary \u2018Painkiller\u2019-tour.<\/strong><\/p>\n

We had a really great time. You know, Priest were touring with the fantastic \u2018Painkiller\u2019 album, the last big metal album of the 80\u2019s – I know it was released in 1990, but you know what I mean – and with Pantera there was a young band, that had just recorded \u2018Cowboys From Hell\u2019, opening for us every night\u2026and as we all know, they became superstars shortly after.<\/p>\n

By the way, there\u2019s a cool story about Dimebag and me. I have this Judas Priest poster from a (\u2018Painkiller\u2019) gig in Rome\u2026it was on\u2026I\u2019m now going down to the studio\u2026it says \u2018Judas Priest, Annihilator and Pantera, March 1, 1991, Rome\u2019. And, quite a while before Dimebag passed away, I saw that he had exactly the same poster at home.<\/p>\n

Wow, that\u2019s really cool!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, indeed. And you know, on the same tour, Rob told the audience every night that this was their 14th album (including \u2018Unleashed in the East\u2019 and \u2018Priest\u2026live\u2019, obviously). So on a day-off, it was either in Austria or Switzerland, some of us went skiing and in the evening K.K. took me out for dinner. He ordered some wine and I asked him: \u201cHave you got one piece of \u00a0advice for having a career as long as the one of Judas Priest?\u201d \u201cWell, besides not too much partying, believe in what you\u2019re doing \u2013 work hard, work hard. \u00a0If there\u2019s no success, keep doing it, because people will respect you for what you\u2019re doing.\u201d His advice became one of my goals (\u2018Annihilator\u2019 is the 13th studio album of the band, by the way).<\/p>\n

Jeff, you\u2019ve been in the business for quite a while, now. Some Annihilator albums (\u2018Alice In Hell\u2019 and \u2018Never Neverland\u2019 for example) are up there with the best metal albums of all time and a lot of today\u2019s guitar heroes (Trivium, In Flames etc.) name you as one of their major influences. What \u00a0does this all mean to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s very cool that young, mid-aged or even well-known guitar players say that I influenced their playing and\/or music. Over the last couple of years, I\u2019ve heard from so many bands and musicians what influence my songs had on their work. That really makes me proud\u2026that rocks. I don\u2019t see myself as an extraordinary guitar player but I think I\u2019m a good guitarist and songwriter.<\/p>\n

Honestly, I\u2019ve never made music because of the money or the girls. It\u2019s nice to have \u2019em both (laughs) too, but I make music because I love it. I love metal, I love thrash metal. When I started, I had two goals: to get a record deal and to record one album. Then I got a record deal and I recorded an album, which was \u2018Alice In Hell\u2019 – and then my manager said: ok, it\u2019s time for a new one. And from then on I knew there was life after one record. The next goal I set myself was: take care of the business.<\/p>\n

A lot of the older songs like \u2018Alison Hell\u2019, \u2018Fun Palace\u2019, \u2018Set The World On Fire\u2019 and \u2018King Of The Kill\u2019 still sound fresh and modern, although written in the 80\u2019s and early 90\u2019s. There are not many bands who can say the same about their songs.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

I agree and it would be great fun recording them again, but I think many fans \u00a0would not be happy with it as they prefer the original recordings. I think that the first four Annihilator albums were quite big and, for me, \u2018King Of The Kill\u2019 is number 1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\n\u00a9 Annihilator<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

How would you describe Annihilator\u2019s sound?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I grew up with the melodic \/hard rock metal of Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest as well as Van Halen and when it comes to solos, Angus Young and Glenn Tipton were my major influences as they had a lot of blues in their playing. Later there came other important bands like Venom, Slayer and Metallica. So the sound of Annihilator is kind of a blend of melodic and thrash metal.<\/p>\n

Although there\u2019s lots of stuff for musicians on every album, it\u2019s still the song that\u2019s in the first place. With your playing abilities, is it hard to be disciplined and not to \u2018forget\u2019 the song?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

For me, it was never about solos \u2013 there\u2019s always the song first. What I learned from the big bands like Priest and Maiden is how to structure a song. That\u2019s a very important lesson. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn\u2019t. There are songs\/albums which are good, some are better than good and some are not as good as they should be. I love \u2018Painkiller\u2019 and \u2018British Steel\u2019 but there are some (\u2018Turbo\u2019 and \u2018Ram It Down\u2019) I don\u2019t listen to. As for Annihilator\u2026 I\u2019m not really proud of \u2018Remains\u2019, to be honest.<\/p>\n

Annihilator\u2019s new, self-titled album is out now. With songs like \u2018The Trend\u2019, \u2018Coward\u2019 and \u2018Betrayed\u2019 it\u2019s 100 % Annihilator again\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, it\u2019s typical Annihilator \u2013 I\u2019m really happy with the result. And the last song on the album is a Van Halen song called \u2018Romeo\u2019s Delight\u2019 from the 1980 album \u2018Women And Children First\u2019. A very important song to me as it really changed my life and turned me into a rock fan. For me, it all started with Van Halen. By the way, do you know that there was \u2018Hell Bent For Leather\u2019 on the b-side of the \u2018Set The World On Fire\u2019 single?<\/p>\n

Yes, and a bonus track of the European version I have\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

Really? I didn\u2019t know.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\"jeffandkk2\"<\/a>
\nK.K. & Jeff
\n\u00a9 Jeff Waters<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

You\u2019ve been playing Flying Vs for almost your whole career and, when we met at the Musikmesse in Frankfurt, you told me that K.K.\u2019s the reason why you\u2019re playing Vs\u2026now, you\u2019ve got your own signature Annihilation-V by Epiphone \u2013 a close-to-high-end instrument at a great price.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I have a lot of guitars and I don\u2019t need any more. I never needed to sign a deal for a signature guitar but as Gibson\/Epiphone offered me to build a guitar, I felt very honoured. I\u2019ve been smiling for the first two days, but then I thought I do not want them to build a guitar for, let\u2019s say EUR 3\u2019000. I wanted them to build a high quality guitar that can be bought at a low price, so every fan\/guitar player can afford the exact same guitar I\u2019m playing. You can imagine how they reacted when I came up with my idea (laughs).\u00a0 But I wanted to make sure that my guitar was not for custom order at high costs only\u2026and there would cheaper guitars sent to the stores. We then didn\u2019t speak for about 1 year or so until Gibson\/Epiphone called me to say\u00a0 \u2018We\u2019re doing it your way\u2019. All in all, it took me\/us about two years to design and create it\u2026<\/p>\n

And the guitar is exactly the one you\u2019re using, you said..<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, the guitar is exactly the one I\u2019m playing. It\u2019s a great guitar and I don\u2019t need another one anymore. The pickups have been designed specifically for me as well (the Jeff Waters Treble \u2018JWT\u2019 and the Jeff Waters Rhythm \u2018JWR\u2019). For the neck pickup I wanted to have this vintage sound like on \u2018Powerslave\u2019 and \u2018Defenders of the faith\u2019 \u2013 and the pickup division of Gibson did a great job. It is singing like a bird, now (laughs). The one at the bridge is very powerful, great for heavy sounds. Although both pickups are no high-gain pickups (I like to get the overdrive from my amps,), they do not lose any of the lows or the clear highs. Both pickups together are a great combination.<\/p>\n

When will we see Annihilator back on stage?<\/strong><\/p>\n

First of all, we will be playing a couple of festivals this summer, like the Hellfest in France, the Rock weekend in Sweden or the Masters of Rock in the Czech Republic. Some more gigs should be confirmed, soon. After the festival season, there will be a proper Annihilator tour. Keep visitingwww.annihilatormetal.com<\/u><\/a>.<\/p>\n

Finally, any message for the Steel Mill readers?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you very much for associating me with K.K. and for the possibility to be a part of the Steel Mill. As I said, I\u2019m a Priest and K.K. fan for life. You rock!<\/p>\n

Thank you very much for your precious time. I really enjoyed talking to you and I hope to see you on tour, soon.<\/strong><\/p>\n

It was really nice talking to you. Thank you and let\u2019s talk soon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\n\u00a9 Jeff Waters<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

While writing down this interview, I was thinking quite often at how I enjoyed this conversation. And my impression is that he\u2019s got a lot in common with K.K. \u2013 not only is he a great musician with both feet on the ground, he\u2019s a very nice person who cares about the fans as well. I\u2019m an even bigger fan of his music, now.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Annihilator on the web:<\/span><\/strong><\/span>
\nwww.annihilatormetal.com<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
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Where from:<\/strong>
\nOttawa, Canada<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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Active:<\/strong> Mid 80’s -><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Style:<\/strong> thrash\/heavy metal<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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Discography: <\/strong>Alice In Hell (1989), Never Neverland (1990), Set The World On Fire (1993), King Of The Kill (1994), Bag Of Tricks (1994), Refresh The Demon (1996), In Command \u2013 Live (1996), Remains (1997), Criteria For A Black Widow (1999), Carnival Diablos (2001), Waking The Fury (2002), Double Live Annihilation (2003), All For You (2004), The Best Of Annihilator (2004), Schizo Deluxe (2005), Metal (2007), Live At Masters Of Rock (2009), Annihilator (2010)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Trivia: <\/strong>Annihilator supported Judas Priest during the legendary Painkiller tour in 1991… Jeff Waters was twice asked by Dave Mustaine to join Megadeth but declined due to his commitments to Annihilator.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Essential releases (top 5):<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\"nevernever\"<\/a><\/td>\nNever Neverland (1990)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Alonside with the renowned debut “Alice In Hell” defined Annihilator’s signature style that, even in the band’s more experimental phases, has remained recognizable throughout the group’s existence. A very strong album; songs like ‘Never Neverland’, ‘The Fun Palace’, ‘Road To Ruin’ and… well, pretty much everything else make this one a definite metal classic.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\"kotk\"<\/a><\/td>\nKing Of The Kill (1994)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Largely ignored and even ridiculed at the time of its release (mostly by the grunge-infatuated press – the fans loved it then and now) \u201cKing Of The Kill\u201d has since risen to a well deserved classic status. It took Jeff Waters\u2019 experimental vision and sound to another level, yet retaining the razor sharp melodies and killer guitar riffs of previous albums. Highlights include title track \u201cKing Of The Kill\u201d and \u201cSecond To None\u201d.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\"carnivaldiablos\"<\/a><\/td>\nCarnival Diablos (2001)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Powerful metal album with plenty of cool hooks and memorable moments. Featuring Joe Comeau on vocals, Carnival Diablos shows it’s strength on cuts such as the title track, ‘Insomniac’, ‘The Perfect Virus’ and ‘Shallow Grave’ that appears as a surprising, yet excellent AC\/DC homage with annihilated thrash treatment.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\"metal\"<\/a><\/td>\nMetal (2007)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Featuring a wide range of high-profile quests from Danko Jones to Angela Gossow or Alexi Laiho to Lips Kudlow, “Metal” joined some more contemporary elements with Annihilator’s classic style and thus scared away some old times-oriented listeners. However, those who appreciate the more modern elements of the album will find “Metal” one of Annihilator’s heaviest and strongest releases.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\"annihilator\"<\/a><\/td>\nAnnihilator (2010)<\/strong><\/p>\n

The eponymous Annihilator album is not only their latest but also one of their finest. Fast, skilled and downright metal. “Annihilator” shows that the canadians have returned to the top players in the heavy metal game. Read full Steel Mill review here<\/a>.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

Essential Guest appereance:<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\"destruction\"<\/a><\/td>\nDestruction \u2013 D.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N. (2008)<\/strong><\/p>\n

The German thrash metal pioneers\u2019 latest studio album is probably their fiercest yet and has received positive reviews all over the world.\u00a0 Waters plays brilliantly neck snapping and melodic guitar solo on \u201cUrge (The Greed Of Gain)\u201d. The track also features another thrash legend, with Exodus\u2019 Gary Holt shredding on the first lead break.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

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